Back in 2017, I was still in college. It was boring and I didn’t learn much. I came to the conclusion that writing PASCAL and C on a piece of paper isn’t going to do much for my future, so I decided to try my luck in the real world.

I lived in a small city in a small country in South Eastern Europe. There were a total of 3 (three) mid-sized companies in the entire city that employed all the programmers in the city. They also picked the best and brightest students from the college for paid internships and possible full-time employment. Obviously, I wasn’t one of them, so I took a different route.

All of my free time from full-time studying, I invested in learning programming online. I even purposely avoided studying for college so I could focus more time and effort for online learning. I believed that some of the subjects taught there were simply outdated and pointless, and to this day I have no idea what some of them were about, years after graduation.

While I was looking for an internship, I was learning anything I could find. Frontend, backend, JavaScript, Ruby, PHP, Java, you name it. It was obvious that I couldn’t learn all of them at once (at least not well enough), and that I needed to narrow my focus. I opted for JavaScript, probably because I was more inclined towards frontend at that time, and I didn’t know it could be used for the backend yet.

I literally wrote to every company in the city asking for an internship on their official Facebook page. And surprisingly, some of them were kind enough to answer. That alone made me feel so good, even though all but one were rejections.

One of the companies offered me to pay them a visit, to meet and have an interview. This was a shocker for me, because I’ve never been in an IT company before. I didn’t know how it looked inside, nor what kind of people were working there, not even what they did there at all. For me, being a shy and awkward kid (a kid in spirit, not so much biologically) was the scariest part of all.

This was the comfort zone I needed to step out of.

They sent an online assignment for me to do. There were a couple of algorithmic questions. I was never good with algorithms, so I did what I could. What I could not do, I did the best of my abilities, and wrote in the comments what I didn’t know, what stepping stones I had, and my reasoning for the solution I came up with, even though it was wrong. I believed that they were not looking for the solutions, they already knew them better than I do, but instead, they wanted to see my thought process, logic, and reasoning. So I wrote a lot of comments explaining what and why I did in the code.

And it turned out I was right. I got some answers right, but not all of them. Regardless, I received an invitation for an interview.

When I got there, the HR lady welcomed me and led me to the empty office, where we sat down and had a chat.

It was a casual, friendly conversation. No stress. She was telling me about the company, and I was telling her about myself, just like you would meet a new friend over coffee.

She didn’t ask me anything tech-related, only my interests, what I’ve been learning and what I wish to learn. I guess she was more interested in learning about my personality than my knowledge.

She asked me one technical question, though, at the end of our conversation. The question was: “Can a constructor be private?” I knew what a constructor was and what private methods were, but the combination of the two never occurred to me before. It was food for thought. (Yes, constructors can be private.)

When she had no more questions, she left, and two guys came: a senior front-end developer and a senior back-end developer.

It was my first time ever meeting real developers in person.

They did ask me a lot of technical questions. The majority of questions were in the form of “what is x and what can you tell me about it”, x being any technology they were using in their day-to-day work:

Java JavaScript Angular HTML, CSS, SCSS WordPress There were also some technology-specific questions. For example, what are primitive types in Java? And a trick question, what is a string in Java, for which I proudly answered, it’s an object, not a primitive type, having read about that just a few nights before.

I knew the answers to the majority of questions, and all the answers I had learned online for free. To my memory, the only questions I didn’t know the answers to were design patterns. And I didn’t learn them until recently, years later in fact, unfortunately.

The dev guys seemed happy with my answers, so they left and the company director came in. He was the guy in charge of the entire office. He greeted me with a smile and sat in front of me. Just like with an HR lady, the conversation was easy-going and friendly. He asked me about my interests, what I had done, and what I would like to do in the future.

I told him about my college studies, my self-teaching efforts, some of the simple apps I have built, and that I want to learn as much as possible from people who have more knowledge and experience than me.

He really liked that answer, and especially liked the fact that I reached out to them, not vice versa. He then said that the company is already planning an internship program for the students of the local university, and I came just before they planned to start scouting for interns. Therefore, he suggested that I be the first student in this program. Also, on top of that, he asked me to invite some of my friends so we could make the first internship group and start right away.

I did refer 2 of my friends to them. They went through the same screening process as I did, and they both passed. So we formed a group and officially became the first generation of interns at that company.

On the first day, we got our own office, where we worked on an in-house project. We also each got a mentor, to whom we could ask anything we didn’t know. It was at that moment that I realized my knowledge at the time was negligible. There was so much more to learn. I wouldn’t even know that was the case if I hadn’t come here.

That was the start of a whole new life for me. Life full of ups and downs, constant learning, and struggles balancing work and studies. It was worth it because it was a great investment for a much better future.

So if you are at a similar stage in your life and just starting out, I see you. As you can see, I’ve been there and done that. So if you have a question or two, I will be glad to help you. You can hit me up at contact@jovandjukic.com.